Limited Edition 3,000 copies were released on 2x12" vinyl for Record Store Day 2018. The album included remixes of tracks from the 2017 Weather Diaries album. SIDE A 01. Lannoy Point (Bartosz Kruczyński Mix) 02. Charm Assault (Mogwai Remix) 03. All I Want (Glok Remix) SIDE B 01. Home Is A Feeling (Babe Terror - A Creamy Crambled Suite For A Ride) SIDE C 01. All I Want (Oren Ambarchi Remix) 02. Weather Diaries (Jefre Cantu-Ledesma Remix) 03. Rocket Silver Symphony (Barker & Baumecker Mix) SIDE D 01. Lateral Alice (Cavern of Anti-Matter Remix) 02. Cali (Luke Abbott Remix) 03. White Sands (Lamplighter Mix) The press release for the album states: "Exclusively for Record Store Day 2018, Ride release 'Waking Up In Another Town: Weather Diaries Remixed' through Wichita Recordings. Available 21st April in all great record shops, this limited edition (3000 copies worldwide) double LP is a collection of remixes of 'Weather Diaries' tracks. The double LP includes remixes from the likes of renowned Berlin techno duo Barker & Baumecker, Mogwai, Stereolab offshoot Cavern of Anti-Matter, Oren Ambarchi (Touch, Editions Mego, Black Truffle), beautiful ambient mixes from Jefre Cantu-Ledesma (with additional vocals from Maria Linden of I Break Horses), Bartoz Kruczynski (aka Earthtrax) and a 25 minute opus from Babe Terror, amongst others."
1. Pulsar (4:22) 2. Keep It Surreal (3:14) 3. Cold Water People (4:31) 4. Catch You Dreaming (6:08)
Catch You Dreaming single released as full-length and edited versions on 9th January 2018, the second track from the forthcoming Tomorrow's Shore EP. (more…)
Ride's sixth single of 2017 and their first new track since the release of 'Weather Diaries' in the summer. The track was released to coincide with the bands performance at Pitchfork Paris Festival. Speaking to Pitchfork Loz stated the track “reimagines old organ samples, transmissions from space, effects, heavy beats and pulsing chords.” He continued, “The song title tips its head to the ’60s instrumental ‘Telstar’ in name and theme; and the idea was to come up with some kind of ‘space anthem’ about light, existence, travel and return.” Buy or stream the track via this link.
Remix single of Cali taken from the Weather Diaries, the track was made available for download/streaming on August 22nd 2017.
Fifth single from Weather Diaries, Cali was made available for download/streaming on July 11th 2017. Official video Commentary video where the band discuss the song
Fifth album released on 16th June 2017. The press release states: "Ride's first album in over twenty years, Weather Diaries, will be released June 16th via Wichita Recordings. The album was produced by legendary DJ, producer and remixer Erol Alkan, and is packed with all the classic elements that made Ride one of the defining bands of the early ‘90s. Trembling distortion, beautiful harmonies, pounding rhythms, shimmering soundscapes and great songwriting all combine to make an album that’s ambitious in scope, timeless and thoroughly addictive. The album will be released through Wichita Recordings and sees the band reunited with label co-founders Mark Bowen and Dick Green, who worked with Ride during the band’s early years on Creation Records. It also brings the band back together with mixer Alan Moulder (Arctic Monkeys, Smashing Pumpkins, The Killers) who mixed their seminal 1990 album ‘Nowhere’ and produced it’s follow up ‘Going Blank Again’." Lannoy Point Charm Assault All I Want Home Is A Feeling Weather Diaries Rocket Silver Symphony Lateral Alice Cali Integration Tape Impermanence White Sands Nightshift review London In Stereo review Some of you have seen this but... have a peek at the embossed Weather Diaries gatefold. Pre-orders are still open > https://t.co/M2dNnb9wdg pic.twitter.com/DhQo3rW7JX— RIDE (@rideox4) June 13, 2017
Fourth single from Weather Diaries, Lannoy Point is the opening track from the album and was made available for download/streaming on June 9th 2017.
All I Want remix by GLOK (Andy Bell) released as a single, originally appeared on US sites on 19th May. International release 25th May 2017. Download/streaming only.
All I Want single Download only release of third track from Weather Diaries. An alternative sleeve (see below) was added to download sites on 18th May 2017.
Released just 24 hours after their previous single Charm Assault, 'Home Is A Feeling' is the second track released from their sessions with Erol Alkon. An album due in early Summer 2017. An alternative sleeve (see below) was added to download sites on 18th May 2017.
To coincide with the 25th anniversary of Nowhere, Ride released a single featuring two new remixes of Vapour Trail by Robert Smith of The Cure. The single was released digitally with a Vapour Mix and a Trail Mix.
Ride Music RIDEMSC03L Going Blank Again CD: Leave Them All Behind Twisterella Not Fazed Chrome Waves Mouse Trap Time Of Her Time Cool Your Boots Making Judy Smile Time Machine OX4 Going Blank Again* Howard Hughes* Stampede* Grasshopper~ (* from the 'Twisterella' EP, ~ from the 'Leave Them All Behind' EP) Produced by Alan Moulder and Ride Re-mastered by Nick Webb at Abbey Road Cover artwork © Christopher Gunson Recorded at Chipping Norton Recording Studios by Alan Moulder and at Black Barn studios, Ripley by Matt Oliver. Mixed at The Church, London by Alan Moulder, assisted by Dick Live At Brixton DVD: Leave Them All Behind Taste Not Fazed Unfamiliar Like A Daydream OX4 Perfect Time Twisterella Drive Blind Making Judy Smile Nowhere Vapour Trail Chrome Waves Mouse Trap Dreams Burn Down Time Of Her Time Chelsea Girl First DVD release of the full 1992 video Numbered Limited Edition of 2000 copies (this version). 20th Anniversary Edition of Ride's second album 'Going Blank Again' CD plus 'Live At Brixton Academy' DVD. Originally released in March 1992, Going Blank Again was remastered in 2001 at Abbey Road Studios and reissued with four additional tracks that had previously been released on the EPs that accompanied the album at the time. This expanded, remastered version of Going Blank Again has now been augmented in this special 20th Anniversary Edition with a bonus DVD of the Brixton Academy show from 27/03/92. This live concert was originally released only on VHS across the world (and Laserdisc in Japan) and has long been unavailable. The DVD has been mastered from the original digital version of the concert and the audio has been mixed afresh in 2012 at Alan Moulder's studio by Catherine Marks and John Catlin. The first 2000 copies of this 20th Anniversary Edition are numbered and 50 of these 2000 were randomly selected and signed by all four members of the band. Recorded at Chipping Norton Recording Studios by Alan Moulder and at Black Barn Studios, Ripley by Matt Olivier. Re-mastered at Abbey Road, London, by Nick Webb. Dialogue on Cool Your Boots from Withnail & I used by permission. © 1987 Handmade Films (1985) Partnership. ℗ 1992 Ride Music © 2012 Ride Music. Available to buy here
Ignition Records CD - IGN CD15 Like A Daydream Dreams Burn Down Perfect Time Sight of You (Pale Saints) All I Can See Decay Severance (Dead Can Dance) Time of Her Time Not Fazed Mousetrap Birdman Walk on Water Since Then Crown of Creation Let's Get Lost 1000 Miles I Don't Know Where It Comes From 1-4 - 1st Peel Session 5-7 - 2nd Peel Session 8-10 - 1st Goodier Session 11-14 - 2nd Goodier Session 15-17 - Radcliffe Session Due to CD time constraints, three tracks from the above sessions were omitted - 'Here and Now' (2nd Peel session), 'Making Judy Smile' (1st Goodier session) and 'Walk On Water' (Radcliffe session). These tracks have been restored for the download version available from ridemusic.net
Soundcheck 1 Soundcheck 2 Performance CD single - no cat # design.tourist p + c 2002 Ride First new Ride material for 6 years Recorded 16/10/01 for the Channel 4 show 'Pioneers' (broadcast 5/12/01) 1000 copy only release, now sold out The band's 17/10/01 e-newsletter described the recording thus: "So yesterday at the John Henry rehearsal complex in North London, Andy, Mark, Steve and Loz all turned up, set-up, plugged-in and put together about an hour's worth of un-rehearsed sonic jamming to accompany the forthcoming series of Channel 4's Pioneers. The show is about the influence of Sonic Youth and is effectively "presented" by Andy and Mark. They talk about Sonic Youth's influence generally to 90's music and specifically the influence on the then-fledgling Ride. As part of the idea for the show, the producer had asked Mark and Andy to play 10-15 minutes of guitar-based feedback which they wanted to film and use as a backdrop to the programme. It was Andy's idea that if he and Mark were going to get together to talk about Sonic Youth's influence on Ride then any "performance" to accompany the programme should feature all 4 ex-Ride members. Mark flew in from France for the day, Andy delayed his return to Sweden after the Oasis tour for a day and both Loz and Steve managed to juggle their existing commitments to make way for the day's filming. Everyone arrived about 11 and everything was set-up and ready to roll about Midday. Once the TV people had sorted their sound and camera positions out, the band started to work on a loose jam that they'd put together on the spot. It was a simple recording - one stereo mic for the drums, one bass mic and one each for Andy's and Mark's guitars. No vocals. It was truly amazing how quickly the whole sound slotted into place, that old adage about riding a bicycle was never more appropriate. There was a break while the sound levels and the overall mix were checked: and also while the lighting team sorted out their part of the equation. After a spot of lunch the band started playing about 1:30 with the cameras and the tape rolling until it came to it's natural conclusion about 2:15. Mark and Andy then filmed the interview and they all packed up and went their separate ways - Mark and Andy off to Heathrow for their respective flights, Steve back to Oxford and Loz back across London. It was very strange to witnedd how natural the whole event was and also how enjoyable and inspirational it was too. They talked about whether to base the jam on perhaps Grasshopper or even the middle section of Drive Blind but in the end a completely new piece of music came out of the day. There will some snaps of the day and maybe some camcorder footage up on the Ride site in the next couple of weeks or so - don't touch that dial." The original CD sold out almost immediately. Image above was originally posted on the old rideox4.net official site
Ignition Records CD - IGN CD13A (available as part of box set only) CD - IGN CD14 LP - IGN LP14 Chelsea Girl Drive Blind Like A Daydream Taste Dreams Burn Down Vapour Trail Unfamiliar Leave Them All Behind Twisterella OX4 Birdman From Time To Time How Does It Feel To Feel? I Don't Know Where It Comes From Black Nite Crash Mastered at Abbey Road, London by Nick Webb Distributed by 3MV/Pinnacle Cover Photograph by Reza Estakhrian Band Photographs by Jayne Houghton & Joe Dillworth Design & Art Direction by Tourist, London Jewel Case CD (IGN CD14) All tracks are original, full versions, except 'From Time To Time' (missing Sleeper Creeper II outro) and 'I Don't Know Where I Comes From', which is the single version. Liner Notes (the OX4) by Andy Perry CD Also available (in digi-pack version) as part of the Box Set (IGN CD13A)
Ignition Records 3 x CD (Box Set) (IGN CD13) CD1 OX4_The Best Of Ride (IGN CD13A) CD2 Firing Blanks_Unreleased Ride Recordings 1988-95 (IGN CD13B) CD3 Live_Reading Festival 1992 (IGN CD13C) Mastered at Abbey Road, London by Nick Webb. Distributed by 3MV/Pinnacle. Design & Art Direction by Tourist and Laurence Colbert 3 digi-pack CDs, with booklet, in cardboard slip case
Creation Records Vinyl LP - CRELP188 Cassette - C-CRE188 CD - CRECD188 Black Nite Crash Sunshine/Nowhere To Run Dead Man Walk On Water Deep Inside My Pocket Mary Anne Castle On The Hill Gonna Be Alright The Dawn Patrol Ride The Wind Burnin' Starlight Motel Recorded in London, 1995 Engineered by Richard 'Digby' Smith and Paul Motion Mixed by Mark Freegard for 140dB except 'Castle On The Hill' mixed by Andy Bell Designed at Negativespace Each format featured different sleeve colour: CD - turquoise (pictured), LP - orange, and cassette - green
Creation Records CD - CRECD 180P Black Nite Crash Sunshine/Nowhere To Run Dead Man Walk On Water Deep Inside My Pocket Mary Anne Castle On The Hill Gonna Be Alright The Dawn Patrol Ride The Wind Burnin' Starlight Motel Some jewel cases are stickered (see image) Sleeve artwork as commercial release A US promo CD, cat # 2-61893-P, also exists - no front insert, back insert has tracklist & brief biography
Creation Records 12" single - CRE199T CD single - CRESCD199 Black Nite Crash Nothing Lasts Forever Slave A Trip Down Ronnie Lane Recorded in London, 1995 Engineered by Richard 'Digby' Smith and Paul Motion Mixed by Mark Freegard for 140dB Designed at Negativespace
Creation Records Promo 12" - No Cat # Black Nite Crash 12" is housed in black, die-cut sleeve Promo CD - CCD 199 Black Nite Crash Nothing Lasts Forever Slave A Trip Down Ronnie Lane CD sleeve is identical to commercial release, with CD printed black rather than cream
Vox Magazine – VOX RAD 9799 I Don't Know Where It Comes From (Radcliffe Session) Free cassette with VOX magazine Later released on Waves
Nice Records CD - Nyce 1/CD LP - Nyce 1/LP That Man (Small Faces) Recorded during the 'Tarantula' sessions A 2 track promo CD, featuring an early 'rough mix' of 'That Man' was also released
Creation Records 2 X Vinyl LP - CRELP147 Cassette - C-CRE147 CD - CRECD147 Moonlight Medicine 1000 Miles From Time To Time Natural Grace Only Now Birdman Crown Of Creation How Does It Feel To Feel? Endless Road Magical Spring Rolling Thunder I Don't Know Where It Comes From The outro to 'from Time To Time' is an uncredited, unreleased track - 'Sleeper Creeper II'
Creation Records 12" single - CRE184T CD single - CRESCD184 How Does It Feel To Feel? Walkabout At The End Of The Universe 7" single - CRE184 CD single - CRECS184 How Does It Feel To Feel? Chelsea Girl Photo - Gered Mankowitz Design - Mark Bown Ride's first (and only) official 7" single release. 'Chelsea Gir'l is the original version, from the 'Ride' EP.
NME - NME CRE 10 I Don't Want To Be A Soldier (Jonn Lennon) (Live at Reading Festival 29/8/92) Free NME cassette Later released on download version of Live_Reading Festival 1992
Melody Maker -MMMC ONE Ride On Time (Time Of Her Time) Exclusive tracks from the BBC Radio 1FM Mark Goodier show, free with the January 30th '93 edition of Melody Maker Track taken from first Goodier session Later released on Waves
Creation Records CD - CRECD126 Chelsea Girl Drive Blind All I Can See Close My Eyes Like A Daydream Silver Furthest Sense Perfect Time made in the U.K. distributed by pinnacle Produced by Ride Chelsea Girl, Drive Blind, All I can See, Close My Eyes: recorded at Union Studios, Oxford, England by Calvin and Alan. Remixed at Arkantide Studios, London by James and Bill Like A Daydream, Silver, Furthest Sense, Perfect Time: recorded at Blackwing studios, London by Ken. Like A Daydream remixed at Matrix studios, London by Alan Moulder The domestic issue of this compilation, featuring the tracks from the 'Ride' and 'Play' EPs
3 x Vinyl LP - NME40LP 3 x CD - NME40CD 2 x cassette - NME40MC The Model (Kraftwerk) NME 40th birthday compilation
MCEG Virgin Music Video Video Cassette - VVD 963 Leave Them All Behind Taste Not Fazed Unfamiliar Like A Daydream OX4 Perfect Time Twisterella Drive Blind Making Judy Smile Nowhere Vapour Trail Chrome Waves Mouse Trap Dreams Burn Down Time Of Her Time Chelsea Girl Audio Recording by Andy Rose, Ian Bridges and James Brown on the fleetwood mobile. Mixed by Alan Moulder at Swanyard Studios Video directed by Marc Edward Over and produced by Jeremy Azis at Academy Brodcasting Productions. Many thanks to Douglas Hart The complete 27/03/92 Brixton Academy show Also available on Laser Disc in Japan, and as part of a box set with the Today Forever video Reissued on DVD as part of 'GBA 20' in 2012
Creation Records 12" single - CRE0150T CD single - CRESCD150 Cassette single - CRECS150 Twisterella Going Blank Again Howard Hughes Stampede Recorded at Chipping Norton recording studios by Alan Moulder, except Howard Hughes recorded at Black Barn studios, Ripley by Matt Oliver Mixed at Swanyard Studios, London by Alan Moulder except Twisterella mixed at The Church London by Alan Moulder Produced by Alan Moulder and Ride Cover photograph by Jock Sturges The single is actually untitled, but has become known as 'Twisterella' as this is the lead track. Apparently, Andy wanted to give the EP a name of it's own, but ran out of time before the artwork was completed Select magazine review
Creation Records/Select Magazine / C-RE 128 Time Of Her Time (Live At Hultsfred Festival, Sweden, 1991) Cassette free with April 1992 issue of Select Magazine
7" Promo - CRE 150P (Creation Records UK) Twisterella Going Blank Again Black, dye cut sleeve 12" Promo - 150TP (Creation Records UK) Twisterella Going Blank Again Howard Hughes Stampede Creation company sleeve Spanish Promo 7" (Warner Bros) 7" Single - 1576 Twisterella Twisterella (plays both sides) Lists Ride's 1992 Spanish Autumn tour dates - released to promote tour Record has no centre (juke box style)
Creation Records 2 X Vinyl LP - CRELP124 Cassette - C-CRE124 CD - CRECD124 Leave Them All Behind Twisterella Not Fazed Chrome Waves Mouse Trap Time Of Her Time Cool Your Boots Making Judy Smile Time Machine OX4 Produced by Alan Moulder and Ride Cover artwork © Christopher Gunson Recorded at Chipping Norton Recording Studios by Alan Moulder and at Black Barn studios, Ripley by Matt Oliver. Mixed at The Church, London by Alan Moulder, assisted by Dick Two uncredited tracks appear on the album - 'King Bullshit' is the intro to 'Time Machine', and 'Motorway Madness' segues into 'OX4'. -Three of the four sides of the double vinyl version have a message etched into the run-out groove: Side A - 'DIE WITH YOUR BOOTS ON', Side C- 'WIN OR LOSE, UP THE U'S' and Side D - 'IT'S NEVER FINAL 'TIL IT'S VINYL'. All formats feature an inner group photo by Jayne Houghton. All formats also include the album's full lyrics; for the vinyl version, this was printed on a pull out insert. Re-issued in 2001 A variation to the LP sleeve has been spotted, with different 'Ride' font to the common version:
Creation Records Promo CD - PCRECD 124 White Label LP - ? Advance Cassette - ? Leave Them All Behind Twisterella Not Fazed Chrome Waves Mouse Trap Time Of Her Time Cool Your Boots Making Judy Smile Time Machine OX4 Existence of white label vinyl promos unconfirmed. Preview cassettes exist. CD housed in stiff polythene sleeve - no artwork A US promo CD, cat # 26836-2-DJ, also exists - this is identical to the regular release (plastic case, same inserts) - the only difference is the release number printed on the disc (26836-2-DJ), which is a black & white picture disc A 4 page press release was also issued in the US (below)
Creation Records 12" single - CRE0123T CD single - CRESCD123 Cassette single - CRECS123 Leave Them All Behind Chrome Waves Grasshopper Leave Them All Behind and Chrome Waves recorded at Chipping Norton recording studios by Alan Moulder. Grasshopper recorded at Black Barn studios, Ripley by Matt. Mixed at Swanyard Studios, London by Alan Moulder. Produced by Alan Moulder and Ride Cover photograph by Jock Sturges This version of 'Chrome Waves' differs from the version on 'Going Blank Again'
Creation Records 7" Promo - CRE 123P Leave Them All Behind (Radio Edit) 7" is in a black, dye cut sleeve. 12" in a Creation company sleeve 12" Promo - 123TP Leave Them All Behind Chrome Waves Grasshopper 12" comes with press release (below) CD Promo - PCRESCD 123 Leave Them All Behind (Radio Edit) Leave Them All Behind Chrome Waves Grasshopper CD is in jewel case identical to commercial release, though may be stickered
Private Pressing 7" single - sleighed 1 Like A Snowflake Sold with event-exclusive T-Shirt at ULU fan-club only gig - 19/12/91 - for £5.00 'Seasonal' rendition of 'Like A Daydream', recorded during 'Going Blank Again' sessions Black, dye-cut sleeve Images kindly donated by Heike Wagner
Creation Records 12" Single - CRE100T CD Single - CRESCD100 Cassette Single - CRECS100 Unfamiliar Sennen Beneath Today made in england distributed by pinnacle recorded at black barn studios by matt mixed at swanyard studios, london by alan moulder A video release was also available, featuring all four tracks. The 12" release has the following etched into the vinyls' run-out grooves - Side A - 'MELLOW AS A FISH', Side B- 'POUNDIN' AWAY LIKE A GOOD'UN'
Creation Records 12" Promo - CRE 100TP Unfamiliar Sennen Beneath Today Distrbuted in die-cut Creaion Records sleeve Pressing identical to commercial Today Forever 12" EP, complete with writing in run-out grooves
Imaginary Records Vinyl LP - ILLUSION 016 CD - ILLCD 016 European Son (The Velvet Underground) Compilation of Velvet Underground covers by various bands. Other artists featured include The Wedding Present, James and Nirvana
Creation Records Vinyl LP - CRELP074 Cassette - C-CRE074 CD - CRECD074 Seagull Kaleidoscope In A Different Place Polar Bear Dreams Burn Down Decay Paralysed Vapour Trail Taste* Here and Now* Nowhere* (* = CD only track) made in england distributed by pinnacle recorded at blackwing studios, london by marc waterman mixed at swanyard studios, london by alan moulder wave by warren bolster Vinyl - Early pressings of the album sleeve featured the bands' name and the album title embossed over the wave design. This was omitted from later copies, leaving only the spine with the band name and album title. Original copies of the LP, Cassette and CD had a black 'Ride' sticker on the sleeve Promotions were run to coincide with the original release of the album - a free print was given away with all copies purchased in the 'Our Price' chain, and a free poster in any of the 'Chain With No Name' shops.
Creation Records 12" single - CRE087T CD single - CRESCD087 Dreams Burn Down Taste Here and Now Nowhere made in england distributed by pinnacle recorded at blackwing studios, london by marc waterman mixed at swanyard studios, london by alan moulder penguins by tara This version of 'Dreams Burn Down' appears on all version of the 'Nowhere' album - the remaining three tracks appear on the CD version only Run-out groove on side A of the 12" has the words 'Horton-Cum-Studley Rave On' etched into it. Side B has 'Penguin Power'
Creation Records Vinyl LP White Label - CRE LP074 Seagull Kaleidoscope In A Different Place Polar Bear Dreams Burn Down Decay Paralysed Vapour Trail Some copies were issued with a press release including tour dates, suggested selling price, etc (below)
Creation Records 7" single - CRE 087P Label Notes: Radio Play Track, from 'Fall' E.P. Distributed to radio stations Deadwax etching - 'Yo Peelie' Black, Dye-Cut sleeve See also 'Fall' EP 12" Promo
Creation Records 12" single - CRE075 CD single - CRESCD075 Like A Daydream Silver Furthest Sense Perfect Time made in england distributed by the cartel recorded at blackwing studios, london by ken like a daydream remixed at matrix studios by alan moulder daffodils by lou The run-out groove on side A of the 12" has the words 'Daffodils to Diana' etched into it. Side B has 'Steve for Emma' No major variations Test pressings of this EP are scarce, since sound quality was poor. As a result, finished copies were sent to press, some of which included press releases (below)
Creation Records 12" single - CRE072T CD single - CRESCD072 Chelsea Girl Drive Blind All I Can See Close My Eyes made in england distributed by the cartel recorded at union studios, oxford by calvin and alan remixed at arkantide studios, london by james and bill roses by debbie This version of 'Drive Blind' first appeared on the band's third demo tape Before the band signed to Creation, the Ride EP was to have been released on One Big Guitar records. The run-out groove on side A of the 12" has the words 'We Love Heavenly Amy' etched into it - a tribute to Amelia Fletcher Some copies of the 12" have black 'RIDE' type, rather than white 'Making Of...' Uncut Magazine article here Test pressing details here
Union City Blue Atomic 'Xmas 89' Given away free at 22/12/89 private party at the Jericho Tavern, Oxford, where Ride played a set of (mainly) Blondie covers with Alex Taylor of Motorcycle Boy. Alex also appears on the songs on this cassette. Re-issued in 1993 as a semi-official bootleg 7" by Fierce Records
12" Promo - CRE 72T Chelsea Girl Drive Blind All I Can See Close My Eyes Mayking Records white labels stamped 12th and 21st Dec 1989, presumably the pressing dates. accompanied by a Creation Records press release Ride EP details here